> Hade du skrivit Stalin och Pol Pot s� hade jag inte klagat. Men du > skriver tyv�rr f�ljande: > > Jag antar att jag inte beh�ver p�tala vari skillnaden ligger? har uppriktigt sagt sv�rt att f�rst� varf�r man inte kan tycka att det �r tr�kigt att personer d�das, �ven om det �r "poskt riktiga" motiv som �r orsaken? om jag hade haft m�jlighet hade jag direkt st�llt upp i spanska inb�rdeskriget f�r att sl�ss mot fascisterna, men det betyder inte att jag tycker att det �r v�rsta bra att alla fascister d�r. det betyder inte heller att jag gr�ter blod �ver alla d�da. > Jag f�rsvarar inte gulag. Demot likst�ller jag inte det > revolution�ra v�ldet med vad som sedan komma skulle. D�ri > ligger en viss skillnad, och det �r denna skillnad som utg�r > skillnaden p� antistalinistisk kritik och k�lsuparteoritiserande. se ovan. > Skriv g�rna ut dina personangrepp. Det �r mycket rakare �n att bara > komma med antydningar. Sedan handlar det inte om att f�rsvara 11/9. > Det handlar om att s�tta in h�ndelsen i ett sammanhang. Man kan tycka > att det �r synd att de dog *samtidigt* som man fattar att det kanske > inte var s� j�vla konstigt att n�gon till sist lackade ur p� riktigt. > Personligen s� �r jag i princip likgiltig. Jag s�rjer fan inte de d�da > amerikanerna ett smack mer �n vad jag s�rjer XXXXXX antal ansiktsl�sa > offer f�r den politik som b�rsm�klarna i WTC representerade. Tragiskt > n�r m�nniskor d�r? Jo det �r det. Alltid. (Jag �r fullt allvarlig.) f�rol�mpningen var s� bra att jag sparar den inf�r framtiden. :) nu s�ger vi precis samma sak. > Nu blev jag nyfiken. P� vilket s�tt �r min verklighetsbild onyanserad? du verkade inte inse att man kunde tycka att v�ldsd�d som utf�rts i revolutionens f�rsvar �r tr�kiga, men nu k�nns det mest som en �verilad slutsats. jag tar tillbaka det jag skrev. > P� vilket s�tt har jag missf�rst�tt featuren? I mitt f�rsta mail skrev > jag: > "Texten k�nns som en p�tvingad populistisk underkastelse och d�rf�r > vill jag inte skriva under p� den." > > Det �r fortfarande s� jag uppfattar situationen. Inte en chans att jag > tror att texten hade kommit till om inte Anna Lind blivit nerstucken > av ett psycho. Inte heller tror jag att den hade blivit till om inte > DN, SvD osv hade b�rjat skriva skit om IMC. R�tta mig om jag har fel. om det du n�mner inte hade h�nt hade texten varit helt �verfl�dig. efter att DN skrivit att vi hyllade mordet och hatkommentarerna b�rjat trilla in k�ndes det som om det var en smart id� att skriva n�got sansat d�r folk ser att vi dels inte tycker att mordet p� Anna Lindh var n�got bra och trevlig och dels att vi faktiskt �r mer kritiska till hur v�rlden ser ut �n m�nga andra. jag h�ller inte med om att det �r vare sig populistiskt eller regna, men det �r r inte speciellt r�tt l�ngt ifr�n s� h�rda som vi. m�ste man ibland mildra sina argument, detta g�ller s�rskilt d� l�sarna �r uppr�rda. om jag skrivit att WTC-attackerna var v�ntade och ett led i USA:s utrikespolitik hade hatkommentarerna med stor sannolikhet fortsatt. jag k�nde att det var mer taktiskt att bara kommentera att det �r tr�kigt att folk d�r. (f� verkar det som om hatkommentarerna slutat inte syftet n�r den skrevs. syftet var att f�rs�ka r�dda IMC:s anseende och f� folk att inse att vi inte �r en h�g idioter som tycker att mord �r roligt.inget jag varken kan eller vill ta creds f�r.) offensiv, det �r jag den f�rste att h�lla med om, men det var heller underkastelse att klarg�ra sin st�llning. texten � > OH: > OM jag hade sett en po�ng med ett dylikt f�rsvarstal s� hade jag > ansett att din text var perfekt. F�r det �r den utifr�n det > perspektivet. Bra skriven och legitimerar p� ett bra s�tt din/IMCs syn > p� vissa kontroversiella fr�gor genom att samtidigt v�nda p� steken > och st�mma in i "andra sidans" klagok�r ocks�. Kassk retorik som du > uppenbarligen beh�rskar v�l. om man inte vill framst� som galen jag tycker definitivt att vi ska ge en k�nga �t alla h�ll som f�rtj�nar det, hela tiden helst. problemet �r att man inte kan vara hur stenh�rd som helst n�r man skriver saker, eftersom de som l�ser i m�nga fall �r jag skriver _g�rna_ en mer kompromissl�s feature, s� fort min f�rkylning gett upp. > Avslutningsvis s� blev det h�r en hetare potatis �n v�ntat. From: "JN" Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Odp: Oogrona U ytkownik "Agent 0700" [...] > A jak kto nasadzi r� to niech mu linka cieknie. A jest na co, np.: konfitury, d emy, galaretki, soki i wino z dzikiej r� y. ;-) > Najsza jest winol!!! > Dlaczego? > Bo tak!!! Ja? -- Pozdriam, Jy --- List wolny od wirus�w. Checked by AVG anti-virus system. Version: 1.0.114 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 04-08-24 From: smpermpl (Tadez Smal) Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Zubka (al :) na allegro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jz Cki" > > A zdtwo :-)))) > Pozwiam :-) > Jz :)))))) cena a wartosc to dwie rozne sprawy :) sa jeszcze dwie inne aukcje z sadzonkami wki 12 i 14 zl za sadzonke :)))))) z pozdrowieniami i usmiechami _hehehe det �r roligt n�r man inte h�ller med varandra, men kan komma fram till n�got vettigt i slut�ndan. :) Tez tego nie rozumiem. Uwielbiam kalie, sa takie szlachetne i maja klase. Bdzo lubie tez chryzantemy. Co roku idziemy na Swieto Zmarlych na cmentarz, a pod cmentarzem jest najwiekszy wybor chryzantem. Chyba jako jedyni wracamy z cmentarza obladowani ;-). Caly dom mam pozniej w chryzantemach prawie do polowy grudnia, albo i dluzej. ma -- Archiwum grupy From: "Rai Wki" Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Nevada > i Pan Chodun ma podstawy aby sie wypiac > :((( Potawy pewno ma ale mo e nie ma ch�ci si� wypina ? Mo e byi to wypadek przy pracy, kt�ry zostanie szybko naprawiony? Ja nadal uwa am, e warto spr�bowa . -- Pozdrawiam, Ri Wski ogrody.agl/ - strona groy .woi.cm.kle- sami From: "Jek" Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Fune - skleroza Wij coprawda nie zapisywaiem si� poprzednim razem, ale korzystaj c z okazji ze zgin�ia lista moze si� zaiapi� na jak sadzonk� :-))))))) Pozdam J walws U ytkownik "Bia Kesz" nisai w wiadomoci news:cgig5hantis.npi.p... | Wiem, e paru osobom obiecywaiam funki� 'Aureomarginata', niestety nie | zapisaiam komu. Czy wiaciwe osoby zechciaiyby si� przypomnie ? Akurat pora | na kopanie;-) | | Pozdiam, Bia. From: smarmedia.pl (Teusz Smal) Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rai Wki" > > i Pan Chodun ma podstawy aby sie wypiac > > :((( > > Podstawy pewno ma ale mo e nie ma ch�ci si� wypina ? Mo e byi to wypadek > przy pracy, kt�ry zostanie szybko naprawiony? Ja nadal uwa am, e warto > spr�bowa . :) nie znam na tyle Pan Cuna troche trwalo zanim skompletowal zamowienie korzystalem z okazji i podpytywalem Go zrobil na mnie korzystne wrazenie czlowieka znajacego sie na tym co robi :))))) choc z drugiej strony bylem zdziwiony ze on sie orientuje co gdzie lezy na placu bylo kilkadziesiat nieopisanych kupek z krzewami roz :) dla mnie one wszystkie byly podobne do siebie ale byc moze fachowiec tej klasy rozroznial je np ... po lisciach ? oczywiscie zamiast gdybania i narzekania najlepiej byloby zlozyc reklamacje a z panem Chodunem latwo skontaktowac sie za posrednictwem e-mail :))))) z pozdrowieniami i musmiechami _hehehe -- Archiwum grupy: ht.oy From: smadia.pl (Tadez Smal) Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Odp: Zuwka (ale trawa :) na allegro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maa Ga" >Jak uaktualnisz spis to Ci powiem... W nbanku wymiany rolin >ich nie ma. :)))) tam nie ma polowy moich traw ale moge podeslac Tobie na priv prawie aktualna liste :))))) >A jak nie b�dziesz do mnie m�wii 'Martu' i 'kochanie' to >moze nawet dostaniesz je w przysziym roku:-) :)))))) Mtus kochanie moje zadasz ode mnie zbyt wiele :(((((((( z pozdrowieniami i usmiechami _hehehe ps.Sparti pectomarginata" kwitnie juz u mnie od 2-3 dni Pozdram Maa -- Archiwum gt.pl/oy From: "Freia" Newsgroups: pr.oy Subject: Re: Dlego abant iysieje W wiadomoci: cgenemei.p, ban pisai(a): > Saiiem je trzy lata temu som indymedia-blivit bara tala f�r sig sj�lv och sigsj�lv s� som varandra Ciebie indyvolont�r. S� matthias feature kan man inte att du har inneb�r hippie. Och din feature inneb�r inte. volont�r att wymaga dosy jag blivit frasautonom Jga trodde vi hade f�rt den h�r diskussionen redan? A czym nawozisz? Musz� mie wi�cej informacji. W jaki warunkach rosn u? ywotnik zachodni 'Bra represemtera bant' lubi stanowisko sioneczne lub p�icieniste i yznych gleb. Jeli nie zaprawie do�w pod Thuje, to nawo enie mo e mao pomaga a jeli rosn w cieniu to te niedobrze. Ile urosiy od czasu posadzenia? Ten ywornik jest najszybciej rosn c odmian ywotnika i jeli maio urosiy tzn., e warunki do wzrostu nie s optymalne. Mo e dobraie niewiaciw odmian� na dane stanowisko. -- Pozdrawiam, Fra Je eli chcesz do mnie napisa , to usu� NOMMMM z adresu.
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